Is your parish more focused on maintenance or mission? Pull up a chair to join the conversation and get a renovation.

In this episode, Matt interviews Fr. James Mallon, founder and President of Divine Renovation Ministries and author of Divine Renovation: From a Maintenance to a Missional Parish. Hear from a pastor who took a risk, shook up the status quo at his parish, and now has an international team of leaders and coaches helping other parishes to do the same.

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